standard" more popular during obama administration or the bush administration? >> you know, it is about the same. i think. >> you didn't get a rash of news? >> a little bit. but not really that much. >> and what about your experience now with fox news? are you still doing the commentary? >> i do some but a lot less. >> why? >> well, that is partly the decision of fox news, but you know, going with other people. i did special report, the show that is 6:00 to 7:00 eastern time. brit hume was the host. i was there almost every night. brett comes in. he wants to have his own people. >> how far do you go back? >> high school. >> what was he like in high school? >> he, i guess, he has changed a lot. >> in what way? >> he was, he was always pretty self-confident, spoke very well. he was not particularly a great student, nor was i when we were together at the university of virginia. we both went in the same line of work. >> when he was here right after he retired. he talked about his relationship with jesus christ, the same thing. >> right. >> that is new that people talk about this in public?